Seguin/By S. Bradley
It’s apparent that as he’s preparing his lineup for Tuesday night’s game at Calgary, Bruins head coach Claude Julien is picking between rookie Tyler Seguin and veteran Daniel Paille for his 12th forward.
Now things could change between now and the puck-drop against the Flames, and other players might enter the debate. But today at practice Seguin and Paille both skated on Boston’s fourth line with Gregory Campbell and Shawn Thornton.
Readers of TheBruinsBlog.net surely have their take on what the lineup should look like, so I ask:
Who should be the Bruins' healthy scratch in Calgary?
- Daniel Paille (67%, 211 Votes)
- Tyler Seguin (28%, 88 Votes)
- Other (5%, 14 Votes)
Total Voters: 313
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Published By mattk Mon. February 21, 2011 9:14 pm EDT
I guess this city always needs a player to scapegoat and this year its Paille since he wasn’t given a chance at the start of the season. Tell me how many players can go in and out of the lineup and still play with energy and create chances each night. I recall Lucic last year struggling real bad when he was demoted to the 4th line. Wheelers gone so now its Paille.
Can’t stand all this talk of wether seguin should play or not.He should play every night.Let him prove either way he belongs or not.Either hes a bruin or not.Claude is a fool to sit this kid and mess with his ego.By the way he has been nothing but a class act to this point saying all the right things,Even though claude has come out and publicly damaged this kids reputation.For all those wanting pallie to play those are the bruin fans that are happy if they play rough and win some fights and get knocked out first round aka red sox pink hats…..As far as im concerned offense is the way the new nhl is going and neely is a relic of old school hockey.whats his qualifications to run a candy store nevermind a nhl team…Yah he was a great skater player but hey he makes the pink hats happy
Can’t stand all this talk of wether seguin should play or not.He should play every night.Let him prove either way he belongs or not.Either hes a bruin or not.Claude is a fool to sit this kid and mess with his ego.By the way he has been nothing but a class act to this point saying all the right things,Even though claude has come out and publicly damaged this kids reputation.For all those wanting pallie to play those are the bruin fans that are happy if they play rough and win some fights and get knocked out first round aka red sox pink hats…..As far as im concerned offense is the way the new nhl is going and neely is a relic of old school hockey.whats his qualifications to run a candy store nevermind a nhl team…Yah he was a great skater player but hey he makes the pink hats happy
I think with the trades that we’ve added enough depth where we can play with that fourth line a bit and put Seguin in there. Paille provides no great benefit to this team, especially on the fourth line where he’ll play about 10 mins/game. Let Seguin develop his game out there, throw him a PP shift every other game and keep his confidence growing. By playoff time we’ll need all the offensive creativity and speed we can find.
Best bet to get all (4) lines rollng….
Lucic-Krejci-Ryder
Marchand-Bergeron-Horton
Peverly-Kelly-Recchi
Seguin-Campbell-Thornton
Paille subs in for Thornton, Seguin and Recchi depending on matchups and back-to-back game rest.
the bottom line is that this would not be an issue at all if not for the useless kelly trade. kelly may be a good guy but what the hell was he needed for? they didn’t need back end forwards, they needed top end ones. they had enough third and fourth liners already. kelly made a lot more sense before peverly. now it is just dumb, unless he’s your permanent fourth line replacement of paille.
@Nick/Ben/Brian – I could not agree with you guys more, Seguin should be on the 3rd line as a winger for the rest of the year. He needs regular shifts on the wing, no 4th line – no back and forth on center and wing – he has 10 goals in very limited minutes…Horton has 5 more on the top line with huge minutes…Julien better change his thinking or it’s another playoff bust
I suspect despite Paille’s recent good play that he will be the scratch (I’d rather see Ryder sit). But I also expect that we will see a lot of mixing of the bottom two lines, and I think Seguin will start on the 4th line, not because he deserves it, but so Julien can get more of a look at what his new assets are. That being said, Ryder is more capable than paille in scoring, but is the worst bruins player in +/- with -4. (not counting Mr. Peverly or Mr. Kelly as they were just acquired and their plus/minus is not as readily comparable.) But Ryder has scored this year, more reliably than anyone on the 4th line or Seguin, and therefore will see play on the 3rd so we can see exactly what we have offensively. One must remove Ryder from a line to get a defensive estimate. The only other minus player on the team to play more than two games with the bruins this season was Savard at a -7. Too bad Ryder wasn’t injured.
I have to agree with what a lot of you are saying. Seguin’s a 3rd line player right now. He’s NOT a 4th line player, especially on the wing. Contact and scrapping isn’t his game at this point. Skate him with a couple forwards who can keep up with him and create odd-man rushes. Seguin, with two of Peverly, Ryder or Kelly could take advantage of lots of teams’ 3rd and 4th line matchups.
Against Calgary, Edmonton and Ottawa, I’d actually like to see him center Peverly and Ryder with Kelly or Paille on Campbell’s left.
i say put him on a line with marchand and bergeron and move recchi to the fourth line while still keeping him on the pp. recchi is slowing down, although not point-wise, but marchand and bergy will handle the puck control while tyler can get open , which he has been doing a lot better lately.. it makes no sense to put a defensive liability on a energy line with less skill
I happy with Seguin on the 4th line. I mean, lets face it, there’s been some nights when that line has produced the most scoring chances. Now with a potential bonafied finisher on that line maybe they can convert a lot more of those chances. Besides, the line keeps true with the current Bruins system of being responsible in all three zones, not just one dimensional.
Sequin is not a 4th line player. Move him up to the third line with linemates who can better take advantage of his excellent passing skills. Another thing that baffles me is why isn’t Julien giving him a chance on the 2nd unit of the power play. Our pp sucks and I feel Sequin has the skills to help it, what can it hurt to give him some powerplay time & see what he can do to help what is otherwise dismal for the most part.
we saw where all the defensive forwards have gotten the bruins in recent years. you drafted the kid to be an offensive force, not the second coming of daniel paille. if he’s playing on the fourth line send him back to plymouth, such a waste. this is essentially a team with two fourth lines, no first line and two second lines as currently constructed. daniel paille, give me a break
segzy-peverley-ryder = no defense. platoon the kid with paille on the 4th line per bluecollarbob’s recommendation.
seguin isn’t a fourth line player that doesn’t help anyone. he isn’t a checking line guy, he’s an offensive guy. on the other hand kelly IS and always has been a fourth line guy. put him on the fourth line. daniel paille is the worst player on the team and doesn’t belong in the nhl.
Agreed. Paille sits and Kelly gets on the fourth line. Seguin-Peverely-Ryder third line. Using Seguin on the fourth line is just dumb.
Seguin should be on 3rd line and Kelly should be on fourth with Campbell and Thornton. Give the kid a chance! He was benched, and he’s been a different player since. Playing Paille isn’t going to benefit anything this team stands for. He’s not a physical guy either, so it’s not like he’ll add an advantage in that way, and it’s evident he isn’t ever going to live up to the scorer he looked like he’d be when he opened his career. Let’s get real and give the kid some time with some more skilled players to ease his adjustments for once!
This is a big game, but its not critical. You sat Seguin for the Montreal home game beatdown. That got his attention.. lets see how bad he wants to stay in the lineup.
That’s for Calgary though. I’m not sure he’s my guy for a 7 game series – especially not with that tandem of Campbell and Thorton. I think there’s potential for Peverley and Seguin to mesh offensively – but it all comes down to whether they can get the puck out of their own end. That’s about work and winning battles – I say we see what Seguin is willing to bring for the Flames. If he can flip that switch, with his quick-strike ability, he’ll find a role in the playoffs. Big if.
Really depends on matchups. For teams with avg bottom 6 skate:
Ryder-Peverley-Seguin
Kelly-Campbell-Thornton
In hopes of capitalizing offensively.
With deeper, more threatening or scrappier teams skate:
Kelly-Peverley-Ryder
Paille-Campbell-Thornton
For added defensive depth