No longer easy to write off Ryder for an extended Boston stay
All these factors might make Ryder expendable. But he’s expressed a desire to stay with the Bruins to this blog a couple times the last couple months. If he keeps up his current playing pace, he’s going to make it hard for them to cut him loose.
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I Like the upside of Souve, he is a really fast, quick (can you say Marchand) skill guy who has proven he can finish. I think a line with him, Peverly and a more experienced, older, next year Seguin is an intriguing 3rd line. While a 4th line with Campbell, Kelly and Thorton might be the best shutdown line in the NHL.
Pat is completely on target: Ryder is the JD Drew of the Bruins. Both seem to possess a ton of talent, but often come off as if they don’t very much care to be pro athletes. And neither player is making an appropriate salary based on their past performance or current level of play. JD is a hell of a lot more likely to retire than he is to resign with the Sox, but Ryder might be brought back at a reduced rate if Savard is still off the cap. I don’t see either returning, but Ryder is still within the realm of possibility.
lets see how the post season goes but if he continues to contribute and they can work a deal then why not bring him back, he’s a team guy
Ryder and Savard are not going to play for the Bruins next year. I’m saving any possibility of rah-rahing Ryder until I see him skate around with a huge cup in his hands and a bear on his shirt. he had a great game, but he sucks way too hard for way too long between spurts. he can go, ASAFP, but I hope he’ll continue to be “motivated” until he departs. he sure is capable of decent play, but he is also the only minus player on the team. if there were a few (like, say, the rest of his usual line or something), that would not be as telling about the individual, but Ryder is the only negative on an awesomely positive team.
Signing Michael Ryder to another contract just doesn’t make any sense to me… none. As for the reason the Bruins brought him back this season, well, it’s not like there were a ton of worthwhile options on the table for Chiarelli (eat his contract getting nothing in return, parting with valuable youth/picks to clear cap, or taking on another unpleasant contract). It’s nice that he hasn’t been as bad as last year, but, as others have pointed out, we have investments that NEED to be made (Kabs/Marchand) and we have youth that will need Ryder’s minutes. Especially if Savvy returns, which is a massive question mark.
Marchand and Kaberle to get signed with only 6.3Mil to go around. PC needs to wait to see if Ryder’s 2nd round playoff performances improve. He is known for disappearing but the last two years in the 2nd round abysmal.
does chia get a discount for ryder man loving claude? i could see $2.5m.
The conversation about Ryder sounds a lot like the conversation about J.D. Drew. He isn’t a bad player but is overpaid and disappears for periods of time.
You gotta think that his money coming off the books is Savards coming back in. He has played well this year, but dont see him around… especially if Caron and Sauve are ready to make the jump
The thing is, we DONT have ryder’s money next year. that money is coming from the expiration of Kaberle’s, Recchi’s, Ryder’s and Marchand’s deals. We added more than was reasonable to sign for next season without an increase in the salary cap, and assuming Savard is back next year, we have $6m to fill three roster spots (if we still want to carry 13 forwards).
I’m not a Ryder hater – he does tend to turn it up a notch in big games, and we’ll see what he brings during the playoffs. But Regardless – I think the Bs need to find out a little more what they have in all these youngsters. Sauve, Caron, Knight, Spooner and Seguin should all be fighting for minutes next year. We can’t keep 5 guys stacked up. Half of Ryder’s money will be needed for Kaberle and Marchand.. the rest should go toward exploring our kids.
I don’t quite feel the same about Ryder as many of the other readers. After last season, I wouldn’t have held onto him for $2m. That said, I would take him at about $1.5m for the next season. If he’s not on board, we should give the job to a rookie. In all likeliness, Recchi is in his final season and the other unsigned players on the team are Marchand, Kaberle, and Ryder. Now assuming Marc will be back next season, that gives us about $6m in cap space. With Sauve or Caron, we take a hit of $1.1m and Arneil is about $500k. Say we take Caron on, that gives us $4.9m left to spend on Kaberle and Marchand. if you were to pay Ryder $2m, we would have $4m to resign Marchand AND kaberle; something I’d like to avoid doing. So assuming Savvy is back next year, and there is no cap increase, Ryder will not be back next year. And we might have cap issues otherwise too.
All the numbers are from capgeek.com
It’s nice to see some people have Ryder down to a tee.Especially Jim. I have a hard time beating the guy up knowing he’s had some family issues that would affect anyone. Streaky could desribe a lot of players and Ryder is one of them. If he’s ok by Julien he’s ok by me.
Sign him to a one year deal, to keep him in “contract year” mode. I’ve really liked his play all season, which makes last year all that more frustrating. Unfortunatley, it seems that without that dangling carrot, if things don’t go his way, he’s more than likely to go into the tank.
There is no question that Ryder is a streaky player. At his best he is strong on his feet, a decent skater, understands Julien’s system and has a very dangerous shot. I’d bring him back with the understanding that there will be stretches in the regular season that Ryder disappears.
Never had a problem with hm, just his salary and the inflated expectations that came with it.
I was three rows up in the Oilers end when Ryder scored tonight. Watching him I find myself in agreement with you Matt. If he signs at a reasonable rate… keep him. He was working it tonight! Nice to see this Ryder again.