
Chara/By S. Bradley
While you re-watch Zdeno Chara’s hit on Max Pacioretty tonight to determine what supplemental discipline, if any, the Bruins’ captain should face, throw out all you know about the league’s tallest player.
Chara’s height and weight do not matter. His strength is irrelevant. That he’s a solid humanitarian off the ice, and on the ice is physical but clean isn’t relevant to this particular play. In fact, the only history that you might take into account is that Chara has only been suspended by the NHL once, and that was for a late-game instigator and fight in 2005 while with Ottawa.
The intent to injure Pacioretty with a late hit — and if you count to 2 Mississippi, it’s a late hit — might have been absent from Chara’s brain, but such a reckless play is going to injure regardless. In an effort to send a message to Chara and the rest of the league’s players, Chara has to be suspended at least one game.
If Chara didn’t know where along the side of the rink he was when he finished the check, that’s unfortunate. Hopefully, Chara will be more aware in the future. Chara said after the game that he did not intent to push Pacioretty into the glass there, and he’s to be believed. But the spot where Pacioretty hit just made it possible for the injury to be more severe than had he been hit along the half wall or in the corner. The hit was still the hit, and it was late and Pacioretty had no reason to believe he was about to get crushed into the glass. When a player is unsuspecting, he’s more than likely going to get injured if he’s then nailed by any player — never mind the mountain-sized Chara
Chara is not a dirty player, and pretty much everyone echoes those sentiments. That doesn’t mean he’s not capable of a dirty play. His team down 4-0 on the road in the most hostile environment for the Bruins in the league, Chara was obviously frustrated, which might’ve clouded his judgment. He wasn’t attempting to injure, but he was definitely trying to make a statement, and those two intentions got mixed together and the result was made more severe by where on the ice the play occurred.
Whether you want to classify it as dirty or just reckless, the hit resulted in an injury that could still turn out to be serious even if Pacioretty reportedly was conscious at the hospital and able to move his arms and legs. Missing the third period of a one-sided game doesn’t suffice as punishment in this situation. A one-game benching by the league would make it clear to Chara and the rest of the league that players have to be more responsible when it comes to hits away from the puck, regardless of where on the rink they take place.









Last game bruins didnt really did nothing beside that nasty hit of chara and lucic trying to fight whit bost at the end,Sure boston choice is oponent and when they are a good one they become shy or afraid keep doing cheap shot on smaller player and beleive me nobody of habs is afraid of bruin they did 2 good trade and became suck
I just don’t see what you see and I think your view is insanely biased
There are radical fans for every team. Habs fans have to put up with it on their sites as well, it’s unfortunate. Try to tune out the extremes on both ends of the argument.
Most hab fans enjoy the games between Montreal and Boston and look forward to the next game and I thank fans from both teams who can look at this in a rational manner and somewhat get past the loyalties to their respective team when deciding what was legal or not and what was right or not right about the play.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUHa0n6_j4I&feature=related
1min 30 -50 good view
Believe me, no one on the Bruins is afraid of Mara coming after them
The only legit hit in there is the PK hit. However, whenever challenged by a Bruin sticking up for Marchand he runs and hides. Kostitsyn is exactly MTL’s type of player. Runs at Lucic and Chara and then can’t stand up for himself.
Nice yea they game this website on a forum and tell Moderator didnt say shit but averybody tell chara inocent i was like damn i need to go talk to them
White should slammed hes face whit is stick or go hti Julien or marchand,Lucky him nobody throw shit on him
Yes we have a picture that i cannot find but clearly show when paccioretty face slammed on the post,Then hand of chara still touching Max head and the post.
Yes chara like to give hit on smaller player and become shy when laraque or something is there…
As for the veterab roockie is that all ur player that tryign to fight whit smaller player its the smae thing as if Mara go beat Seguin whit is elbow protector and conitnu once is down.
Its a really confusing hit becuz only chara know what was is intention and he has been help by Max speed and area in the rink.Its a reall uncommon hit butthe mdangerouns he almost killed him and he could just hit him to the boston bench or in front he wait to te good moment and gave a little puch + hold it whit is arm
I’m still enjoying the fact that Habs fans probably Googled “Boston Bruins Sites” or something along those lines, just so they could come out of the woodwork and jump into our forums. It’s an all-out invasion. Don’t any of you Habs have jobs? (I’m on my lunch break, before you start with that argument)
Your view of what happened is insanely biased. Pushed his face with his elbow into the the bench with his arm? Chara is always trying to hurt smaller players? That is just emotion talking and simply isn’t true. Does it matter if a veteran hits a rookie?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlHkIZcQz0Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b5TAA1OCJg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_BStkVC_zQ
This is how they should play hockey and intimidate us
Not by choissing there oponent and keep punching once hes down or only trying ot protect hisself
Good but
Hes intemp of injury is not on the hit,is becuz after he push his face whit is elbow and then keep hus face inside the bench whit is arm
Chara not a player that injury other player but hes always trying to hurt smaller player and everything im sure hes intention was there but he didnt know it was to going that far
Boston should conitnu playing rude but by making good hit not trying to beat smaller player ,nasty hit, veteran against smaller roockie that wont figt and fighting whit elbow protector and part of the rink
A player that does not know where they are on the ice ???? BS to that. Going after the puck ?? BS to that. Did Chara intend to hurt him ??? Only Chara knows and at this time he would be in denial. Season suspension is what is needed before players realize that they can’t go crippling other players.
I had not seen the report and certainly wasn’t making fun of it. I was unaware that report had come out. Concussion, obviously, and broken vertebra. Hope he makes a full recovery.
Pacioretty is 6’2” by the way. He just looks 5′ next to Chara. Everyone does
Is just there to keep the rule so chara wont try to destroy are 5foot player,he would not run after a player and give cheap shot
Whats are u trying to make funny thing on injury of max
A broken vertebra and big commotion isnt a small thing and ur team should know about this
Grosse commotion celebrale en plus d’une ou des vertebre de casser
“Big Commotion + Broken vertebra”
????????????????????
Wait, Mara is out there as your enforcer? HA
Kool sorry aobut thats frustation and irepectfull part
Big Commotion + Broken vertebra at least hes not dead.
but like a PK Max was a main target of boston,one of are best rookie .We took Mara and other player to help keep rule on the ice but like all habs hes not going to injury or trying to fight whit ur best or smaller player,Like Gill he will just protect are player like subban when 2-3 guis running after him like the AK46 hit on Lucic ,3player running after him
Dear Habs fans (Mara in particular):
It’s nice to debate with you about the severity of punishment and various plays when you do so in a respectful, readable manner. So far, most of you have tried to be respectful in explaining your logic despite an obvious hatred of the bruins (I totally understand) and thank you for posting in English.
Just try to make sure we can understand your ideas.
My god keep thinking ur a figter and beef team after that 8-6game u got beat a couple of time and sure u can fight whit pyat ,spacek,hamrlik that dont know how to fight,Each fight in that game was nasty beside Price and Pouliot thats did one clean hit and let the guy on the ground..Chara was running at Max ass at least gill was there.
Bad commotion + broken vertebra hes was not a cheap hit player but whit this one maybe he became one whit a free hit in neutral zone on a guy that didnt have puck
In slow motion we clealy see elbow and arm of chara that hold Max head out of the rink to hit that post.
I hope the stupid coach we have call the big guy that wont be class like alll canadien became and give lucic marchand Mcquaid thornton and the most important chara whats he deserve
Broke Vertebra + Big Comotion
Facts get in the way of your arguments. There has not been a single time that a MTL “tough guy” has stepped up in any way and challenged a Bruin and the Bruin has backed down. Boychuck may have been beat in that fight last night, but he fought. MTL, on the other hand, is full of chippy divers who hide when the going gets tough, starting with PK. The toughest guy on your team is the smallest, Gionta.
Also, Lucic not only beats up your team, he is a 30 goal scorer. Boom.
Lol Marchand is the player who dive and talk a lot,Thomas is the goaler thats always look bad vs MTL mayb ur too young and as for the game i know ur player became excite and want to fight not whit mara or moen but whit smaller player that dont know to fight and they even fight whit his elbow bloker,
Ull see hockey change and we wont let u indimidate us but we have player to answer if lucic or all ur fighter player have ball to take a real opponent…
As for PK gladly we didnt took Kaberle he play like shit PK is one of the best roocki and playe rof the league i understand u trying to intimidate fight or injury him but i would like we do the same for seguin krejci bergeron and the big mouth talkshitter but wont do nothing : Marchand and Julien
Everybody’s a tough guy behind their computer. Both sides of this argument should remember this.
But Mara, your opinion is so biased. How can you continue to write here when we’re trying to be sensible, but you keep jerking yourself off talking about all the “great” things about your team? Are you socially crippled?
Marchand had a stick in his skate that was deliberately put there. Laraque had no place in hockey, and I’m sure every GM in the league would tell you that. And let’s be honest… the Habs agitated and egged on the Bruins during that 8-6 game. I’m not going to go the route of a lot of people and call the Habs and their fans “pussies”. But have some integrity. Stop trying to taunt the fans here, you’re disgracing your city.
I don’t remember people backing down when Laraque was there. I remember the Bruins sweeping the Habs the last time they met in the playoffs. Do you remember that?
“yes gomez would not protect vs cara did u think Seguin would fight Mara” – are you referring to yourself in third person? If so, Seguin could probably smoke you in a fight.
I can’t understand the rest of your drivel, other than you claiming Price is superior to Thomas, which is funny.
Not sure about Thomas??? U mean the Tim Thomas who is leading the league in GAA and SVP? That Thomas…. yea, I am not so sure about his numbers either… having a down year….
Bottom line: Clean Hit, Bad Result, Hope Max is OK.
Its bad enough we have to watch your players whine and dive in the games…but even worse to have to read your broken english crying act here. You act is growing old… and with that I am done.
MattK-on the bright side, this might be the most comments on a blog for the year.
Mara – reading your comment gave me a headache. I’m a big Bruins fan living in the DC area and this blog has some of the better articles you’ll read on the Bs and readers that are very knowledgeable. That being said, I’d have to go with the regular readers on this one. The MCKs and the Karl Hunguses of the world.
Chara was beat to the outside and he used his positioning to make a play. I’m fine with the interference penalty, and in a game that has already been decided and the focus shifting from the outcome to the health of a player, it is probably best he sat out the remainder of the game. If you’re going to say that Chara was aware of the ‘turnbuckle’ and it being a dangerous area, then Pacioretty needs to be just as aware for going into that danger area. Too often a player will look for the officials to protect him, rather than looking out for their own well being (head down coming across the blue line or going into the corner, etc).
It is similar to the Ovechkin hit on Campbell last year. The hitter should’ve been more aware, but I think Chara has a cleaner reputation and doesn’t run around as much as Ovi. I think a game or two will do. Best of luck to Pacioretty. If you could comprehend this press 1, if not press 2.
1 Boston 66 38 20 8 84 200 156 +44 16-12-4 22-8-4 7-2-1 2D
2 Montréal 67 37 23 7 81 180 168 +12 21-8-6 16-15-1 6-3-1 5V
We are on a good straight not u
First sur Marchand did a nice dive for a penalty shot,as for what u ,julien and marchand said go see the last game and beside what White did(a young player and it was free move on PK that could be dangerous)Cheap shot =fight whit part of the rink,elbow protector adn once the guy is down.
Did u remember whe nLaraque was there lucic was invisible and shy,As for Zdeno did try to fight but whit is glove and wretling
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He has a bad commotion and a neck fracture are u crazy clean hit whit is arm he make sure the face hit that pole and yes gomez would not protect vs cara did u think Seguin would fight Mara same thign fag.
Finally we show u that rask is not better then thomas vs us and on playoff ull have more punition we will score a PP and the reff wont let u assault so we would be in bussinness Price is right but not sure about rask or thomas
Idiot MCK, Pacioretty is not ok, severe concussion and possible fracture(neck or skull). Watch the video frame by frame, intent is there. Motive is also present, from the Pacioretty shove on the Jan 8th victory. If you thought Bertuzzi was wrong and think Chara’s hit was ok, you are a hipocrit. Typical Bruin fan who has no idea about hockey. Hope the bruins, oh never mind, they never win anyways.
That Boston journalist has probably never seen a hockey game live in his life, so his opinions are basically worth squat. Don’t try to sell me on this garbage that MTL players are all class. Your team dives and cheap shots its way through games and then can’t stand up for themselves when someone calls them on it.
I am positive that any time PK or any other MTL player wants to engage Lucic, Quaider or Z, they would welcome it. Like I said, Gomez went over and blew kisses at Chara.
The hit wasn’t dirty, everyone is glad Pacioretty is ok, the referees made up a 5 minute interference call that doesn’t exist and Chara will be suspended, even though he shouldn’t.
Hopefully the Bruins and MTL can meet in the playoffs so Price can melt under pressure like he always does (remind yourself of the last two times Price has faced the Bs in the playoffs).
Mara is a fraud, a fake,
I thinkslll ysosk ousr s hoe sl goobbos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlHkIZcQz0Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b5TAA1OCJg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_BStkVC_zQ
This is clean hockey
U clearly see that Chara didnt hit max but make sure whit his elbow arm that the face of max would not pass between him and the polr….Hes not a cheap shot player but he really did one also whit circonstance between this 2 player,4-0 16sec left its claery attempt to injury plzz go see the replay ….The thing i paste was fromt a Boston Journalist he said its ashamed for Zdeno and Boston and deserve a good suspension
Mara-
I don’t think anyone on here can fault you for being passionate. Your team was on the bad end of an awful accident. Chara has no history of unwarranted aggression, and is one of the NHL’s top philanthropists and charitable workers. MTL fans can hate him for being overpaid, or for being a frustrating player to play against. But you can’t say he has ever been murderous.
Also, Tony Masarotti might be the least knowledgable hockey mind in Boston. Nobody here really likes his opinons on things.
In the end, for the sake of Max, I think it’s safe to say the B’s fan base is all hoping that he makes a full and quick recovery. We aren’t malicious people in Boston; we love hockey just as much as you, but our fans and our team aren’t the villains you’ve made us out to be.
Mara- just because Tony Maz said it doesnt mean it is fact…not opinion. I can probably go online right now and find a half dozen other articles with opinions stating it wasnt a dirty hit
We are waiting for u we did more the nu in last playoff and the classment is really tight,Honestly im thinking and saying ur the bets team in east becuz philly didnt have goaler but all ur goaler became disgusting vs montreal
PK give clean hit he should killed marchand last time
Look at clean hit Kostitsyn did on ur cahra and Lucic on youtube and see how Wizniewski Moen bacame clas playe whit cnadien we dont need this but sure are coach suck cuz we have player in AHL and laraque that make all ur player shy and transparent Boston are all the same,opporunist and choice is opponent (smaller guy thats didnt want and know how to fight)
Yes Pyatt Spacek and Desharnais are not fighter so keep fighting whit ur elbow protector and hitting once the guy is down
Yeah, there’s been an uptick in MTL fans on here in the past 12 hours. I don’t like it. They invaded the B’s Facebook page and saturated it with flippity-floppity crap-talking too. The outcome of this situation is not going to change, regardless of how many empty insults and accusations are thrown around. It’s always good to know that passionate hockey fans exist, and Montreal might even be my second favorite city to be in… I love the city and the people were amazing. But there’s no reason to be disgustingly crude and aggressive.
OK sry guy im back did i need o refresh u about the history between Max and Zdeno?Sur we are not a team that fight and give bad hit to injury (beside white thats a young guy are the fighter we have or had are class player )(laraque never touch lucic becuz respect,Moen would not jump on a guy or injury for nothing)Ur player sure drop the glove whi tspacek and pyatt they are not figter cmon Pouliot didnt continu to punch once krejci was down same for price thomas) chara choice is opponent fight whit glove and all the team lucic never look at laraque or mara but trying to fight whit pouliot…BTW translate or go read in rench this article http://www.rds.ca/hockey/chroniques/316299.html Boston Globe Tony Massarotti said that whitout a doubt Chara was cleary goign to inujry Max ,Hes intention was claer but sure he didnt think or want to do that much and regret it.Its a shamed for zdeno and boston bruins and he deserve a big suspension,Ig pk Subban did this to Bergeron or Cambell son im sure u will all call for a suspension.This is what Boston journalist said,I agreen that max speed and Rink area help zdeno and did the damange but its like an armed ans same as if u give hit whit ur stick on the face or slammed an oponent face on the post net like u said its dangerous spot on the ice.
Mara: if your going to speak in English, please make n effort. Pay raise for chara, no suspension obv.
*Naturally Speaking*
Let me start by saying my thoughts and prayers are with Max as that was one of the scariest scenes I have witnessed in the last few years including the Savard hit… Pac is lucky to be alive.
That being said, it wasnt a dirty hit. Yes these teams have a history, and yes it was probably delivered to send a message, but cmon, Chara cant just let the guy skate by him no matter how much time is left or what the score is. I think it was a borderline interference call at best. The hit wasnt malicious but the outcome was horrible.
Finally, all you Montreal trolls can go back to your own blogs, especially Mara who cant even type. What word is “whit”? Ever heard of Dragon Natural Speaking software…. probably wouldnt be able to understand you then either with all of the ehhhs and “whats this all aboooot”. Enjoy finishing second in the Northeast with your midgits and softest big guy in the game…(Im looking at you Hal Gil). You have your cheap shot artist in PK as well as others… difference between Habs and Bruins is we dont take dives.
Also Mara, are you not capable of talking about this without slurs and such? I mean, cmon. Kalman is just going to delete your rants.
Mara
The last time MTL tried to fight their way through something like this, they got ruined in Boston. My guess is people like Spacek had enough of getting punched in the face and now knows better. NO ONE from MTL did anything to Chara last night after the hit. Gomez went over and blew kisses at him.
Reading through the broken English, you sound like a clown.
The argument that Chara was reckless in the hit because it was a dangerous place on the ice is specious. The goal posts are metal and constitute a dangerous hazard to a player that is tripped into or pushed into one. Similarly the photographers holes in the glass constitute a potential hazard should a player get a stick caught (as has happened). There is no extra penalty or gravity assessed if a check occurs in these areas. It is the NHL’s responsibility to ensure the players safety. Goal posts could easily be made of PVC or other plastic. The “turnbuckles” as Cary Price calls them or staunchions as any literate person would call them , could easily be redesigned (angled, or make of a different material to render them safer. To now state that Chara should be penalized for because of a hit on a dangerous part of the ice is assinine. There has been no recognition previously that ANY part of the ice is any more dangerous than any other. (except that the ICE is dangerous and therefore players must wear helmets). If the NHL argues that there are dangerous parts or the playing surface or surrounds, it behooves them to correct the deficiency – not penalize someone because of the NHLs lack of foresight.
Sure chara regret but im 99%sure before the game its been a month he was saying in his head i need to revenge on paccioretty and whit 4-0 hes penalty wasnt bad and whit the cance adn speed Pacioreety gave its was a chance that chara could not miss!Lucic trying to come on Pouliot at the end of the game go see mara u fucker that was invisible when laraque was there and the coach said we are the agressor!?Chara,Julien and the team should have a big fee and suspension Hockey is not a sport of paybacki hope Habs could be as cheap as u and bring are big guy to intimidate boston when its 4-0 just like u did last game or if we loose give a big cheap shot on Seguin krecji Marchand or Bergeron keep hidin boston keep hiddin and waiting for cheap shot u almost killed the guy u crazy u deserve prison .
LOL i just understand in boston u love fight bu tdidnt even noe hockey rule !Go buy glasses and see tje slow motion replay ull see that chara entend to injury paciorrety(im sure he regret and didnt want to do that much but its done)U clearly see no 67 dump the puck then go side to chara and the last second when the board is there chara but is head there whit his elbow that a really nasty move that even chara and cheap player would never do.whit 16esc left its an intend to injury and he know what he was doing we see him put the head at the last second and didnt turn his head back becuz he know what he did and keep playing the innocent card when Boston loose they change there game and start playing like the only way they know cheap shot on smallest player fucker
MCK u stupid or what we cleary see chara that put all is frustration since a month he slooking ot hit no 67.Now he did choice the good place and wait last second to do is cheap hit like a said a faggot that fight whit glove need a arm (Glass) to do a hit and yes no 67 didnt have a puck anymore whit 16sec on the preriod they was one thing in Chara hea (HURT PACCIORETTY) Happily is not dead and chara should play hockey again…Bost are cheap fighter that choice is oponent and give cheap shot sry we are not like this and we let ur skilled player played whitout giving cheapshot or intimidate!Keep talking Marchand et Julien gang of fag
Interesting tidbit from ESPN.com:
Martin, the motreal coach, said that the refs adjusted the penalties when they saw the severity of the injury. That’s the sort of thing I really hope doesn’t happen because either it is or it isn’t a dirty and dangerous play, the severity of injury could very well be the worst case scenario, but just a regular check, as Marco Sturm can attest, can end your season in a number of ways.
Are you really going to say fighting is only in hockey so people from the South will watch? Say it ain’t so.
I will say I believe it was a bad decision on Chara’s part to make that play, but I do not believe there was ever an intent to injure. As fans, except for the most obvious of situations, how can we claim to know whether or not there is ‘intent to injure?’ We don’t know the players.
I saw a comment from a Habs fan on a forum saying Bruins fans would be uppity if it had been reversed, and say PK Subban ran Krejci into that area. Of course we would, just as we were pissed off at Randy Jones and Matt Cooke. However, we wouldn’t be screaming “attempted murder” as some of the Habs fans have been.
When it comes down to it, it is a fast paced game and people can’t always make the right decision. Shit happens when players have only a split second to choose whether to pull up or follow through. If you don’t like the violence and risk of injury, don’t put on the skates. It’s the same in all contact sports.
Do I think Chara should be suspended? No. I think it was interference that turned into a debacle for both he and Paciorretty. Obviously you don’t want to see anyone injured like that, but do you really think Chara is sitting at home happy about this? I can guarantee the guy feels like absolute shit about the situation.
That 5 minute interference call was undoubtedly the first of its kind. Prepare for this to be totally botched by the NHL as they protect the sacred cow that is Montreal
we can all agree that the NHL is absurd with its rulings and comparing anything to the Matt Cooke situation is just frustrating and now pointless. Because of Greg, Colin Campbell will not be involved in the process (thank god). I am sticking to my guns that Chara needs to be more aware of the situation the player he is checking is in. For example, a shove against a player from behind at the red line, center ice will most likely result in a 2 minute minor, while pushing a player into the boards can lead to a slew of other penalties and suspensions. Chara made a late hit, which in our new NHL is interference, and did show a follow through to finish his late check, which resulted in injury. People can argue all they want that the injury should have no impact, but the NHL is doing its best to protect its players amist all the concussion problems, and I can’t see Chara getting out of this whirlwind of media exposure without a 1-2 game suspension.