Pacioretty
Montreal forward Max Pacioretty spoke to TSN veteran writer Bob McKenzie today.
Recovering from a severe concussion and fractured verterbrae, the wings is obviously upset about a number things.
Here’s what he told McKenzie:
“I am upset and disgusted that the league didn’t think enough of (the hit) to suspend him,” Pacioretty told TSN. “I’m not mad for myself, I’m mad because if other players see a hit like that and think it’s okay, they won’t be suspended, then other players will get hurt like I got hurt.”
“It’s been an emotional day. I saw the video for the first time this morning. You see the hit, I’ve got a fractured vertebrae, I’m in the and I thought the league would do something, a little something. I’m not talking a big number, I don’t know, one game, two games, three games … whatever, but something to show that it’s not right.”
“I heard (Chara) said he didn’t mean to do it. I felt he did mean to do it. I would feel better if he said he made a mistake and that he was sorry for doing that, I could forgive that, but I guess he’s talking about how I jumped up or something.”
“I believe he was trying to guide my head into the turnbuckle. We all know where the turnbuckle is. It wasn’t a head shot like a lot of head shots we see but I do feel he targeted my head into the turnbuckle.”
Hopefully Chara will reach Pacioretty soon and they can iron out their differences. As for the league, well we all know how that goes. From Pacioretty to Marc Savard to any other number of guys, there’s rarely justice in the NHL.
I love the Bruins n Habs games, i live for it- its most definitely becoming an incredible rivarly (not that it wasn’t already). Heres a few things Id like to discuss. I love Lucic, he’s an all rounder player. He hits hard, he scores goals and he sticks up for his players. Besdies OV, I’d say he’s probably up there in terms of most exciting players to watch. It’s just a shame that sometimes he lacks etiquette and class. For example, the fight he tried to spark between him and Pouliot; completeley unecessary. Holding a grudge for a fight that took place more than a month ago, with Krejci pretty much starting it, is just plain stupid. Plus he’s double his size. Price barely touched Thomas out of class, theyre friends off the ice. He could have destroyed him.
With respect to the hit on Max P. – forget altogether Chara’s intent on injurying him, I would say that its appaling how one player is ready to lace his skates for his next game and the other is in the hospital. Heres some food for thought: maybe Chara shouldnt come back untill Pacioretty leaves the hospital as he is pretty much the one that put him there. You guys went through the same with Savard and Bergeron, and what, theres no solution? Is the NHL being to lenient? Where’s the accountability? What if Lucic was elbowed to the turnbuckle and couldn’t return to the game, because the perpatrator didnt have the “intent” on injurying he would walk away free? I’m sure the B’s fans would be devastated.
Ryan, it’s going to always come down to opinion on this one. Chara had the angle to see where the stanchion was, and his arm did push Max’s head into the stanchion at the last second. Max never had a chance short of not trying to skate past Chara. Max was playing hard, like everyone expects him to play. Did Chara use his arm to do this on purpose? Someone else posted that Lucic did this check earlier this year…I’ve seen Thornton do it also. The habs might have the label as a dirty team in bean town but it kinda has to go both ways. Nobody wants to see this happen again (at least I hope)
Eric – Idiots abound in and out of hockey – withness Parliament Hill and and the US Congress or people that stop to look at car wrecks to see gore and mutilation.
Everyone keeps saying Chara was reckless and I “might” even buy that argument IF it can be explained how he was any more reckless than Paccioretty. If you maintain that Chara KNEW the stanchion was in the immediate vicinity AND constituted a potential hazzard AND knew that Paccioretty was going to come up the inside along the boards AND then decided to rub out (clean out, hit or whatever) the player coming from behind then I will agree he was reckless. HOWEVER, you have to agree that Paccioretty would ALSO have KNOWN that there was “turnbuckle” or more properly a stanchion in the vicinity AND decided to put himself in a hazardous position by going board side to deflect the puck down the ice AND was prepared to be squeezed along the boards. HE TOOK A RISK and was therefore reckless with regard to his own well being. He is as much at fault as Chara.
I do not like to see people hurt be it Savard, Kamfer, Bergeron, Crosby or Paccioretty. I would like to see hitting and fighting taken out of hockey. I do like wide open free flowing hockey as was played in the 1950′s and 1960′s.
The other part of the argument is that Chara should have held up. Maybe Paccioretty should have held up too. Maybe every forward chasing down a defender going after a puck on icing should hold up. Maybe a player should not “be brave” and block shots. Maybe the puck should be made out of softer material so that goalies don’t get hurt and players don’t get cut on deflections. Maybe the nets should be removed from the ice and inset into the end boards so that players being tripped don’t go into the metal pipes.
The game is as it is. The crunch was within the rules notwithstanding the interference penalty. It was never a deliberate attempt to injure in the magnitude of an Ulf Samuelson knee or elbow, or a Matt Cooke or a Sean Avery hit from behing or a Steve Ott sneak attack from the rear. It was most unfortunate accident that Paccioretty got hurt. The best that we can do is pray that he has a speedy recovery and is able to return to hockey.
Once again Habs fans (and baited Bruins fans):
Stop with the insults. This is why non-hockey fans won’t join the game. You’re acting like a bunch of kids! out of the 42 posts thusfar, MAYBE 5 have been part of a real conversation.
This site is supposed to be to talk about the Bruins and have (relatively) polite debates, even if our viewpoints differ. This thread is full of personal attacks that need to stop. In all honesty, a lot of you habs fans, but not all, have been extremely disrespectful while coming onto this site. If all you want to do is rip on the bruins, go do it somewhere else. You are not welcome here if that’s you’re entire purpose.
If you are here to debate and engage in a conversation in the way OHF or Dar has (it’s also pretty obvious about Dar’s bias, although he is willing to discuss hockey), please talk with us, that is a very interesting conversation.
I agree,this kind of hit can happen but not when its ur worst enemyand u push hold i had whit our glove arm,hopeully its no over yet,Police would investigate and Criminal courts would be set for Zdeno,Th intentionaws there wa have proof and everything to bring him to court.Hop he get what he deerved !
Boston coach would desrved a fee for all what he did
George, you’ve risen high above my expectation of a boston fan. This was a horrible play and it had the worst possible consequence. Seeing it happen live, I sincerely thought the kid was dead for a couple minutes.
We’ve seen the pictures and we’ve seen the tragic results.
These two teams have to continue playing each other to hurling the insults isn’t going to be productive.
Hopefully we can all at least agree that we hope Max Pacioretty can first lead a normal life after this and second, play hockey again.
Cool, I can see that. I was referring to whoever posted the “Canada is America’s hat”
Its hellarious how these Habs fans are letting thier emotions get the best of them. Nobody here wants to see Max hurt like this but… it happens when you play hockey. If Habs fans knew as much as they claim to they would know that Chara is not a dirty player and has no history of doing this.
Max is making himself look immature. It is clear he is a rook and Z is a vet, Z is one of the most accountable athletes I have ever watched. If he made a mistake he would have apologized.
Best quote on this string – ” Use your heads not your hearts montrealers.”
Eric, there have been some posts on here using the same name as me that were not me, my posts have agreed completely with what you said about the league and Chara’s hit. I don’t know if you can believe that but it’s true.
This kind of play happens all the time, Lucic did the same thing, angling off a Lightning player last week. Everyone feels bad for Paccioretty, but you cannot suspend a guy JUST BECAUSE it was an injury, and the screenshot doesnt help the case, you have to take into consideration the start of the hit and the fact that he didnt thrust himself, launch himself, or target the head as part of the hit.
Did Chara know where he was on the ice? Of course he did. He probably should have got a one game suspension, but guess what? Justice in the NHL is fickle, ask Savard.
And for everyone crowing about Colin Campbell, he stayed out of the discussion with Chara because of the conflict of interest. Boom.
Sean, I can understand you frustrations and that of other Bruin fans. Heck I would feel the same way if my team had been in the league for 86 years and only won 5 Stanley Cups. Wow, even the Maple Leafs have won 11Cups. The Oilers have only been in the league for 30 years and they have won 5, truly pathetic.
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Sean, we’re pissed off that the league’s justice system lets these kind of things slide with no penalty. The fact that there is not “rule” against slamming somebody’s head into a post at dangerous speeds and almost taking his life. That is much more dangerous than your average headshot.
Whether intent was there or not, it was reckless and had a terrible result. He is accountable. I saw the clip that George posted of Max’s hit against the oilers (george is a tool btw) but I would say max deserved a suspension for that hit. I think Cooke should be banned from the league for the hit on Savard.
And, yes some habs fans are idiots, but many boston fans are also idiots. So those of us that are not idiots (not sure whether you are part of that group or not), should stop attacking each other and look objectively at the hit, the result and what should be done about it. For the sake of the game, and not for bitching and moaning of the case of one player. The league repeatedly fails to send the strong messages they need to end this bullshit. And people like Lemieux are starting to take a stand but he’s somewhat of a hypocrite in that regard since his team is home to the dirtiest player in the league.
You Habs fans are such hypocrits. You have not answered the essential question: Under what rule is a suspension to be granted? There is NO rule that says if a player is injured, intentionally or unitentionally that a suspension will result. Everything you have written to date ASSUMES that there was intent. Even Paccioretty BELIEVES (but does NOT KNOW) that there was intent. It seems that agitating and cheap shots are part of the Montreal game plan. I say seems because I don’t KNOW for sure but it seems to be because they are always doing so. Well Habs fans – Realize this: Never slap slap a man on the face if he’s chewing tobbacco. Are you guys smart enough to figure out WHY?
I should have figure it out earlier. I am trying to bring to reason a peolple who gave Georges Bush a second term whereas it should not have been even close. Waste of energy on my part. I should have known better. Oh, and by the way, you’re right, one should be able to walk around town, high schools, town halls, shopping malls even courts of justice with decent warfare. You got that right!
Mc, You cant take 1 free standing clip out of an entire video and know exactly what Zee is thinking. back it up 3-5 frames and they are shoulder to shoulder. he was rubbing him out and it went wrong. Thats it. And I can assure you I would think the exact same thing if the tables were turned. If you can PROVE to me that Chara had, at the speed at which hockey is played, could look up, see the stanchion, say to himself “Im gonna put Patches into that” and get into position to do that then I will pay out of pocket to study Zee for his obvious mental perfection cause theres no way anyone thinks that fast. No one.
hey mr. hockey why dont you try writing something different.. why cant these canucks write on their own blogs.. its annoying.. we get it.. you didnt like the hit but please stop.. all you fans are writing the exact same thing and posting the exact same picture and its getting old. you dont like the bruins. you like the canadiens .. then why dont you enjoy each others company on your own site becuase you are really taking away from this one .. and in today’s crazy internet world there are just too many bad sites so please . we get your points .. trust me, WE GET YOUR POINTS.. you keep repeating the same garbage over and over .. its redundant and overdone .. go back to your les habitants websites
Hey NO CLASS
You gave yourself the perfect name! Enough said!
“In Chara’s mind it is OK to retaliate from a brotherly push with a murder attempt.”
A murder attempt? Seriously get a life. Why don’t you riot in the streets over a hockey game again and really put some lives at risk. Or again, get back to overwhelming your 911 system like spoiled children and put some more lives at risk.
You want to overstate and exaggerate Chara’s intent when Montreal Canadiens fans have PROVEN to the world that they are willing to kill each other, destroy each other businesses and properties, and put the lives of Montrealers at serious risk over a HOCKEY GAME. Maybe it’s time you took a step back and looked at your own culture instead of ruining whats normally a very friendly and informative blog. Of course I’m going to personally attack you, moron, you’re spouting off like a 13 year old girl, use your head not your hearts Montrealers.
Was I being personal towards the Bruins fan?? I don’t think so, but if you do good for you. Have I called you names. It’s all about Chara’s actions is it not. Who’s stirring shit between you and I, really? Mr. Fungus is one special nutcase as well.
RD I’m not defending Chara, in fact I’m a Bruins fan and I’m outraged that there is no suspension on the play. Max was severely injured and Chara at the very least made a reckless decision that was completely unnecessary. I’m just aggravated with some Habs fans, who have come here attacking like Bruins fans held rally in Chara’s name. I apologize because I’m newer to hockey blogs and I have clearly been baited into fighting with other posters. Lesson learned. I hope Max comes back and has the great career he was going to have, I hope players can learn to respect each other more, and most of all I hope the NHL can figure out how to correctly hand out punishment.
Ya Bernard you idiot, he should probably be arrested and thrown in jail, god forbid someone finish a play against a beloved Montreal Canadien. Everyone here feels badly for Max, everyone wishes it hadn’t happened the way it did, but guess what, shit happens. You habs fans should probably go back to tying up your 911 lines so the people of Montrealwith REAL problems can die in their homes waiting for emergency services so you disillusioned fools can keep this drama routine going. When are you going to let us get on with our blog? Why dont you all get together and spend your energy on something useful like petitioning the NHL to put glass in front of the benches? Why don’t you start a foundation and raise money to install glass in front of the benches in your local minor hockey arena? Because you’re likely too stupid to learn from life and are probably going to waste the next few months of your life crying for Chara’s head, you idiots will have long forgotten Max Pacioretti’s name, but you’ll still be calling for blood every bruins game… be careful what you wish for shit disturbers.
In Chara’s mind it is OK to retaliate from a brotherly push with a murder attempt.
Let’s not debate whether Chara should be sitting out of the game for 1, 2 or 10 games. Somebody tried to kill someone tuesday night. It happened in broad day light in front of millions of eyes connected with adult brains that can figure it out on their own.
It was planned from january 8th. All NHL video since that game should serve as proof to substantiates Chara’s sinister planning.
If Chara’s pinches Max in the habs zone, he has no chance to hurt him. If Chara gives the blue line, he forces Max to skate in the now funnelled shaped dangerous zone every players is aware of. The angle at which Chara skate form a funnel with no possibilities to escape but a ramp to project the oppenent right against the butcher’s hook. Nasty very Nasty.
In my life this one ranks way up with the Hunter – Turgeon murder attempt. That one should have been taken to court as well. Perhaps it’s not too late yet.
Bless you Max. Burn in Hell Chara
Realistically Chara should have gotten somewhere between a 5 games suspension, but would have gotten a 2-3 games.
Yet Eric Goddard got a 10 game suspension for jumping into the fray to help his goalie. Go figure.
And it really doesn’t help that Campbell is there, with his son a Bruin.
Mr Hockey…. why would louch want to fight a bum and be in the box when he could be scoring goals? There is a reason George is out of the game. Anyway i couldnt catch myself dead on a theHabsblog.net (whatever you call yourselves) Get a LIFE!!!! hahahah you LOVE the bruins!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chara should have been suspended 10 games for severity of injury. He should pay Pacioretty’s medical bills and be banned from NHL playoffs.
I don’t blame Max for getting mad about Chara saying he jumped into the stanchion. Watch the replay, there was nothing remotely close to a jump.
Not taking responsibility for your actions adds insult to this horrible incident.
Also, just remember, the more you defend Chara’s actions or the more you ridicule a man with a broken neck, the worse you make Bostonians look.
George,
Eaton was 12 inches from the boards. Sure, it’s a boarding penalty but less likely to end a career than the savage deliberate hit Chara put on him.
To compare the 2 hits says you either know nothing about hockey or are a completely dishonest person.
Get well Max.
Hey George, What’s that got to do with Lucic? why was he so scared to fight Laraque?
haha god forbid laraque is gone now the ice is alot safer now. He had 4 fights in 09-10 and 9 in 08-09. very intimidating
Habs folks said nothing when Hal Gill ran Sim into the stanchion (apparently they don’t seem to care now whether it was an accident or not). They said nothing when Cooke was out there attempting to and successfully injuring players. They said nothing when Begin broke Savard’s back. They said nothing when Jack Johnson rode Ryan Smyth into the stanchion. They said nothing when Paille hit Sawada or Cooke hit Savard or Richards hit Booth or Neil hit all those guys he blindsided…
And yet somehow, I’m not surprised by the hypocrisy.
Thank you George. Both hits can be argued heavily for being dirty. Plus where do you get off trying to say something like that Mr.Hockey? Thats like saying im sure more goalies were safer when Ronnie Hextall retired or more people watch the puck when Pronger is on the ice to see if he takes it.
Hypocritical? Obviously you didn’t get a chance to see the above video I posted where Max could have easily ended Mark Eatons career, and also contender for Mr. Hockey’s so called cheapest hit of the year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1IDI1lTrBc
Lucic sure is brave nowadays, if I remember correctly he turned down every offer from George Laraque to fight. Now that George is out of the game, Lucic has grown a set of balls and is bad mouthing other players for not accepting his offers. What a hypocritical piece of scum. Then again, you Bruin fans are too blind to see that.
Pacioretty has no class? Are you joking?
He got his neck broken and most people are just shrugging it out as it,s “legal”. Can’t wait to seea player die and see the twisted shit people will come up with to somewhat justify an agression. Chara screwed it up. It happens. It doesn’t make him a Matt Cooke (yet, if he started doing it for a living), he’s not a dirty player, but he did deliver a vicious hit, something Ovechkin also did. He knew where he was and what he was doing, as any picture form the hit will tell you.
Yep Tanner glass didnt know nothing about thes 2 player but said that hitwas intentional and dangeround.Chara knew wher he was and even aim is head whit is glove
http://tinyurl.com/46z3jh9
u clearly seee hes intention
Two things amaze me about the Bruins these days. Firstly, ever player on the team has gotten a little tougher and a lot more mouthy since George Laraque left the Habs. Syecondly, anyone ever notice how selective Lucic is when picking someone to fight and how his helment never comes off during a fight
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Funny, After the game, I didn’t see Marchand mouthing off how the Habs are a dirty team. Then again it’s hard to put down another team after your team mate possibly ended another players career with the cheapest play of the year.
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i’ve heard of no look passes, but no look ramming of heads into turnbuckles? stay classy, max. z’s your daddy and he looks like the better man now.
God bless u max and im proud of u a player that have guts and saying what he knw think about that situation im on ur side and sure that u have reason…That pic from Alex cleary show zdeno arm hand was there and Tanner Glass said its a intentional hit that was dangerous and disgusting (whitout knowing the story between max and zdeno)
Maybe Max and Chara can get together and talk about who’s hit was dirtier this season.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1IDI1lTrBc
Taner Glasss gave hes opinion one of the drtiest hit it was free and intentional he knew where ihe was and is goal was head vs pole!Great job all this for a little push after a OT goal
I hope that they bring em to criminal court since its a big story and deserve better analyst then nhl expert friend of a bruins father
http://tinyurl.com/46z3jh9
Explain me why his head is holding and aiming Max head and tell me there no intention…
http://tinyurl.com/46z3jh9
Tell me the intention wasnt there and that hes not holding aiming Max head whit is hand,glove!Max told llthat and Tanner Glass said it was a dirty hit and chara knew what he did
This is the pic i was looking for !The should have wait for Max and other review on that hit ive seen the interview whit Tanner Glass that said he knew what he did and it was is intention (that guy said that whitout knowing the beef they was between max and zdeno)The picture cleary confirm whats Max saying the hit wasnt brutal it was more of a pushing and aiming the head whit his glove(Max remember this and this is Max interview if u know french
« Je ne veux pas passer pour quelqu’un qui en met trop, de dire Pacioretty qui est demeuré très calme durant toute l’entrevue. C’est vrai, les émotions sont fortes. Mais la réalité c’est que j’étais dégouté en entendant la décision de la ligue. Il n’y a pas assez de mots pour dire comment je me sens, suite à cette décision. Dans la nouvelle ligue nationale, un défenseur n’a pas le droit de me retenir. Alors ce qu’il a fait, c’est qu’il m’a forcé avec son corps sur la bande et m’a mis la main sur ma tête. Je ne pouvais plus me défendre. Je ne pouvais plus bouger. Il m’a envoyé directement sur la tige et j’ai perdu conscience par la suite. C’est une honte qu’on laisse se genre d’incident se produire dans la LNH. Je me suis réveillé seulement lorsqu’on m’a mis sur la civière. Je disais au médecin de me laisser tranquille que j’étais en mesure de jouer. On m’a vite faite comprendre que ce n’était pas le cas et de ne pas bouger. J’ai vu Brian Gionta à ma droite en ouvrant mes yeux et PK Subban qui était sur le banc et qui me regardait. »
Anyone who hasn’t play the game of hockey at a high level, please stop commenting on this issue. Your opinion isn’t worth sh** in my mind because you have never been there. You show me someone that says Chara was able to “guide” his head into the turnbuckle. I will show you someone who has never played the game, or loves to hear himself talk, and will never back any of it up.
As for Pacioretty, I did feel bad for him. But that ended when he opened his mouth.
I can’t wait until this whole situation blows over because all the idiots giving their opinion are really starting to piss me off.
Canada = America’s hat
Shut up Sean the guy that dont have class is Zdeno ,julien,the league commissar and all u boston fas that think that way(i think u are minority and none of u where like thats when it happen to savard bergeron)Mav gave hes opinion and i really think its the truth,whats his glove is doing there http://tinyurl.com/46z3jh9 badly the league only took chara opinon put btw it might not be over if Max accept they would be criminal charge since it may not be premedited but it is intentionel i hope something happen since Tanne Glass ,and a mojority of bruins fans said he knew where he was and what he was doing but was not hoping to do that much…
That thing happend becuz chara or any player would have done this whitout all this circonstance
I hope(not truly)that someone as an injury in ur team so ul come back the way u was when Bergeron savard got out nobody want to see that play and even less when the intention is to injury or free hit
This whole situation sucks but shouldnt he be recovering insted of stiring the pot.
Very clear photo in the paper today. Chara’s full fore arm is squarely and deeply against the Canadien’s head going into the turnbuckle. I dont believe Chara when he says he didn’t mean to hurt him. Doesn’t fit the photo.
That’s Pacioretty. No class. What rule does he want the NHL to use to grant a suspension? Uh Which one? Good to know that he is a mindreader and KNOWS what other people intend to do. But still, that’s the Habs for you. Still, I hope that he effects a full recovery, and can return to his agitating ways. Isn’t it a sign of the times that people feel that they don’t have to be accountable for their actions?
differences? like one guy being a cheap gutless coward who got off lightly?