No reason for alarm over Bruins’ loss, just Seguin’s inability to use one
After beating Pittsburgh Monday and getting into Winnipeg late, the Bruins had to face the challenge of getting up for a game with the Jets tonight.
Everyone managed to answer the bell, except winger Tyler Seguin. That forced the Bruins to scratch their leading scorer and they missed him in a 2-1 loss. It was Boston’s first regulation loss in 16 games.
Seguin missed the team breakfast and a meeting, which according to general manager Peter Chiarelli was the latest infraction by the second-year speedster. Here’s the pregame quote from Chiarelli, as per the Boston Herald.
“He’s had a couple of instances before. I don’t see it as a problem. I see it as a young player who sometimes forgets to set his alarm. We gave him a couple of passes (in the past). It’s a young kid who’s learning to be a pro — and is a heck of a player.”
Without Seguin, the Bruins were unable to solve Winnipeg goaltender Ondrej Pavelec except for a Daniel Paille shot that glanced off Shawn Thornton’s hand. Bryan Little scored the game-winner, while Andrew Ladd also scored for the Jets.
Pavelec finished with 39 saves. Tuukka Rask stopped 33 shots.
The Bruins will be back home to face Florida Thursday after they travel home from Winnipeg Wednesday. Here’s hoping Seguin has learned his lesson and will not require more discipline the rest of this season, and his career.
mck you should never have to explain sarcasm
@Cormac, thank you for changing the subject. I’ve been waiting for Thornton have a real old fashioned scrap this year. In case our fellow readers don’t remember…http://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/101833
The Panthers added Krys Barch to their team yesterday. Thornton will have a familiar dance partner for tonight’s game.
Greg, you are right, they really screwed up with Kessel (sarcasm)
This is a non-story at this point to me. Kid was late, he was punished and the Bruins told the media. He wasn’t ripped. He will probably score 2 tonight. From the look and sound of it, Seguin gets the point and will benefit from this.
Facts are wrong. He was late one last year, this is a team problem especially with certain players. Look at Seguin’s ice time compared to others, especially last few games. Julien has always played with Seguin’s focus and the fact he is young and doing better than his vets.
Everyone is missing the truth.
of course i have over slept but his excuse doesn’t make sense.
nobody thought to check on him? come on now these guys are teammates that shit doesn’t happen.
I was disappointed that Seguin missed the game. However, I am not bitter. But you should go on Seguin’s twitter to see how many people have ripped him up. I don’t think he’s going to do it again, but if I was in his position, I would say, “screw this city.” I think some people need to learn to keep things to themselves, or when it comes to resigning he’ll just walk. It’s an honest mistake. The report for the last day or two was that Boston hasn’t been to Winnipeg for an NHL game since Dec 31, 1995. It makes sense that someone could have a problem with the time, especially a 19 year old.
Jim,
You’ve never done that? I did it a few times when I was his age (as he apparently has).
There probably is a lot more to the story, but at this point I’m giving Chia the benefit of the doubt and then some that he did the appropriate thing for two reasons: the first is that new banner hanging in the Garden. The second is Seguin has already beaten his goals and assists totals from last season and is a point per game player. I think the Bruins have been handling him well thus far. This feels like it’s in the same vein. If there’s more to the story, that’s fine. Let’s assume they Bruins are dealing with it in the appropriate way as they have done since Chia got here.
I realize that Rollie but it doesn’t make any sense.
@Patrickd – Yeah, that one was intended.
@Big Jim – Seguin said during the post game interview (quite briefly) that he set his alarm, but it was set for Boston time and he forgot to change it.
What might have actually happened, is that he was up an hour earlier than he needed to be, saw the correct central time on the alarm clock beside his bed, and went back to sleep without resetting an alarm. That’s something I’ve done before. Who knows. Anyway, I just think this is real minor issue – no sense trying to break it down so it resembles a significant problem.
There is more to the story.
Team made the right move. If he’s done this multiple times then he should be benched. Either he slept in because he feels entitled or is too lazy…or he was not at the hotel to be able to check in. Fix this while he’s 19 instead of having to trade him when he’s 24 because he’s bad for the locker room.
Do these guys have roommates on the road? It all seems so avoidable…I am concerned there is more to the story.
I am willing to bet that he wasn’t even at the hotel in the morning and crashed at another location. NHL players have two a room on road trips.
Unless Caron was his roommate…..
I know what I was like at 19. good luck to anyone that gotta deal with teenagers for sure.
Caron is his room mate. I doubt Seguin was in the room. Kinda like AWOL.
@RD – I’m going off of what was said on the Bruins broadcast last night. It was explicited stated that it is a new “tradition” and it wasn’t just because it was Chara.
I slept in one time as an office boy. I was almost an hour late but if I could beat my boss in I may have pulled it off. I run to an open elevator and hop in. Press the button and nothing. I stand and wait about a minute and in walks my boss. She doesn’t say anything and now were both waiting. After another minute I turn to her and say, “You think this is bad.I’ve been standing here for forty five minutes”. She started to laugh and said she was a teenager once. Just don’t make a habit of it.
Bruins management is trying to tarnish this kids name.If hes acting up then handle it internally.Look at kessell he is hated in this town(why is that?)Maybe peter can get a couple good vetern scrappers for him.
@Rollie….”a good wake up call though”…pun intended?
The “forgot to change the alarm to central time” excuse is a lie though. If he had done that he would have been an hour early.
John, they didn’t boo all captains.
Chara will attract boos in different cities over the incident from last year. It’s been debated to death but this is primarily why people boo the guy.
They don’t typically boo other captains based on the matches I’ve seen on TSN.
rollie if he forgot to set his alarm to central time he’d have been an hour early.
“ripped” is a strong word, but it’s clearly a public shaming. they could have made an excuse, as they may well have in the past. he’s sick, give his legs a rest whatever. the fact that they chose to make it public makes it clear to me that this is bigger than missing a breakfast.
So many people want to start some drama for no reason.
Despite watching the interviews of his coach and teammates last night, I also seem to have missed where management ripped the kid.
Pretty sure I missed it because it never actually happened. Someone please link it up, if they did rip him; otherwise I saw a measured, appropriate response to a fairly minor mistake. How many of you have been late multiple times for work as 19 year olds? Forget what he gets paid, or that it’s not a typical job – he’s still 19 and mistakes will be made. Lesson in professionalism learned, this is embarrassing for him obviously, and sends the right message; everybody plays by the same rules.
He forgot to change his alarm to central time. Conspiracy theorists need to give it a rest, this is very, very minor.
Good wake-up call for the kid though, I expect him to be flying next game.
The fans in Winnipeg last struck me as really passionate, but also idiotic.
The new “tradition” of booing all opposing captains is the dumbest thing in the world.
The way they, and the team, reacted after the game you woulda thought they just won something other than a regular season game in early December.
Wait ’till John Steigerwald gets a hold of this story!
@BK I think the benching was intended to humble him. I don’t have problem with any of this. Seguin acts like a teenager and tests the management’s patience. They put up with it for so long and then they react. They don’t flip out. Just like any parent who has raised teens. You can’t get mad, you just have to show them the line and when they cross it you remind them where it is. They make him watch his team lose by one goal. One goal he could have scored. And I think it was obvious to all that removing him from that line and then juggling the 3drd line to make due screwed up both lines chemistry. He had to see that from the press box. I wager he comes back on fire in the same way Marchand did after his 2nd period benching this year. And believe me no one on that team will let him forget this….ever. And as far as him having an ego goes…no one had a bigger ego than Marchand and it took him 3 years and many slaps on the wrist to finally reign it in. And Seguin seems to be a much brighter guy than Marchand. I think in the long run this is going to be a positive turning point. If I’m wrong then maybe a visit by Thornton is in order.
Ed, these guys, even at rookie minimums are being paid really big bucks. They can wake up and go to meetings.
Anyone else thinks it’s stupid that they have a mandatory breakfast/meeting the morning after flying in from Pitt? What time do you think they got to their hotels in Winn? Let them sleep in, or in Seguin’s case let him sleep in before he takes his walk of shame back to the hotel.
I am starting to get the impression that Seguin has a big head. First began with the whole billet family situation.. the team/management seemed as though they were pushing for him to live with a family and Tyler chose to rent out an apartment. Than to see that he has missed meetings before shows that he does what he wants.
To say he is just a teenager is not a valid excuse. Seguin played two years in major junior hockey which also has team meetings and pregame meals. He should know how this works and I really hope that his teamates are able to ‘humble’ him.
I missed the part where the organization was ripping him. Maybe there was a quote somewhere I missed. To me it sounds like Chiarelli went out of his way not to sound too harsh.
Anyway. It was a good game. The Krejci hit on Stuart was unfortunate… very glad Stuart came back, but the fire it lit in Winnipeg was killer. To me it turned the game around.
I’m not buying into this as being a problem yet, may actual help him down the road as his points continue to grow so will the ego and this is some nice dirt the team has to keep him humble. If it does happen again he might have to be locked in a room with Thorny and Darth quaider for a heart to heart. If that fails make him practice blocking Charra and Boychuck slap shots for half hour!!! Lets move on and get the next one!
Alarm???
You guys do know that teams do actually lose sometimes:)
As for sequin, make him room with Thornton.
Betcha the teammates are getting a little annoyed too, and this is a good way to keep him humble, which is gotta be hard to do for someone of his skill level and age. That’s not a dig against him, it’s just that keeping a level head and a good understanding of his place on the team and how to be a good teammate is really hard for kids his age, let alone a kid his age who is a NHL star. Just part of growing up, and given how Chia has handled his players in the past, he really wants to motivate this kid.
I doubt Seguin will miss another breakfast meeting. Good game, the B’s had plenty of opportunities, Pavelec and Rask played great.
That’s a good point greg. the team ripping him is a shame. i still say this claude / seguin deal is not going to work out ultimately.
you won’t find a bigger seguin guy than me but hearing this seems to be habitual is disappointing.
You could see it in his face last night, he was pissed he wasn’t on the ice.
mo re to it than a simple alarm prob.Team publicly rips him?No one wakes him up who is his roomate?Let him sleep all day as long as he scores goals.WTF LUCIC CAN BEAT HIS GIRLFREIND BUT THATS OK AROUND HERE
Who’s his road roomy? Not that it’s anyone else responsibility to be sure that he’s up & Adam, but if the kid’s had problems in the past, pull his a$$ off the mattress =D
Tough one for sure, and they could have used his speed last night, but you can’t win ‘em all. Time to focus for another conference and division leader…Man, that’s weird to say about the Cats.
He is still a kid in a mans world. Sure he felt bad. The loss should amp them up for this next game! looking forward. with a bite.
what? forget to set an alarm, does not sound like he appreciates where he is